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:One of Wikipedia's main creeds is '''[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|Be Bold]]'''. I guess the same counts here. You don't have to register to add it. -- '''[[User:Tupka217|<font color="Green">Tupka'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tupka217|<font color="DarkOrange">'''''217'''''</font>]]</sup> 09:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
:One of Wikipedia's main creeds is '''[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Be bold|Be Bold]]'''. I guess the same counts here. You don't have to register to add it. -- '''[[User:Tupka217|<font color="Green">Tupka'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Tupka217|<font color="DarkOrange">'''''217'''''</font>]]</sup> 09:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
== Sin Tzu Characters ==
I noticed recently that the character [[Sin Tzu]] from the DCAU-based video game is a canon article on the site. Does this make Jeremiah Arkham, Mackenzie Bock, Black Mask, and the Luck Hand Triad (All characters and groups from Mainstream DC Comics) canon in DCAU? They were referenced in the game's storyline.
Thanks,--[[User:Duel44|Duel44]] 23:03, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:03, November 16, 2010



Congrats, you just got a new medal. ― Thailog 14:24, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't aware someone voted for me. -- Tupka217 14:47, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of voting, we really need a FA for January, and I've got no idea what to nominate. -- Tupka217 14:49, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Neither do I. Perhaps another Static Shock article? ― Thailog 15:46, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Or maybe Ro? -- Tupka217 15:55, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Not with a cleanup flag... ― Thailog 20:00, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Running kinda late. How about Klarion? ― Thailog 22:49, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking Penguin; it only needs references and that shouldn't be too hard. But now that I've changed "Tiko" to "Teekl" I haven't found anything wrong with it. -- Tupka217 23:01, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
I still think that Penguin has some grammar and language issues. ― Thailog 19:38, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Could be done in time for February. -- Tupka217 19:56, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Future FAs

How about we start featuring Lists as FA? Some are quite detailed, and most of them entailed as much research as for character and episodes articles. ― Thailog 19:37, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

No problem with that (although I would vote against voice actor lists). -- Tupka217 19:56, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. ― Thailog 20:03, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Minor Characters

You've been a little busy little bee, haven't you? I'm just droping by to give you props for creating all these pages. They are often neglected, and I for one am sick of redlinks. Fantastic work. Thanks. ― Thailog 21:42, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

I started out checking which characters still needed images (which, far as I can tell, is now covered). From there, I just thought "why watch an episode and leave red links"? They'll never get done unless you do all the characters in the episode simultaneously. Though they do create a disambiguation problem. There's 5 Billy's, 3 Earls, 4 Kevins, and some Johns and Jenny's. -- Tupka217 22:21, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

How do I make a page?

I would like to construct a page for 12th level intellects, how do I do this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Brain Interactive Constuct (talkcontribs).

Judging by your efforts on Brainiac 5, I'm going to have to point you in the direction of our conjecture policy. Most of the people there aren't referred to as 12th level intellects (or 10th or 11th) in any of the episodes, so there's no real point in making a page for it.
But, as to your question, a page can be created by clicking "Create a new article" in the blue box on the right, or by following a red link. -- Tupka217 22:33, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Restore World's Finest Podcast Pleasw

It has no reason for being deleted and is extremely valid. listen to episode 71, even Tara Strong gave them a shout out. You're abusing your position as a mod if you delete things YOU don't think are relevant. Listen to more recent WFP's and you'll see how relevant it is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

No. This wiki does not cover fan sites. -- Tupka217 17:35, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

It's not a fansite, it is a PODCAST. Bruce Timm has acknowledged it on their forums, and said they could call themselves the official DCAU podcast. And I can name plenty of instances where the wiki kisses the butt of world's finest online and toonzone. Please restore it, it won't hurt anything, we have pages for characters with no speaking roles and less than a minute of screentime, and technically, this wiki IS a fansite. So should we just delete the whole thing? No, of course not because fan's hard work made this whole thing, so what the fans do does matter.

Relax. This wiki is, indeed, a fan project. It covers the shows and their production crew.
We do not have pages on Toonzone and World's Finest Online. We do not have pages on any other site, podcast or convention. We just use information from them occasionally, and link to them. If you want to add links to podcasts about episodes or characters on the external links section of pages, go ahead. -- Tupka217 09:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Ok then. Thank you and sorry for any trouble.

No problem. Thanks for pointing out the podcast, I will be listening to it. -- Tupka217 15:18, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

Cool, my friends are up to Justice League season 2. You should write in and tell them "tnr105" told you about it on the DCAU wiki, they always like to here from new listeners, where they are listening from, and how they heard about them. They review they will be taking a break in between JL and JLU for Teen Titans {They consider it to be in continuity). I also told them about this wiki to help them with their episode recaps, someone deleted all the episode pages on the normal wiki, so this is a very clever resource. By the way you can listen to them from their website, or iTunes. In their most recent episodes they mention their new voicemail line if that's more convenient and their email address is, their website has a link to their forums, you should join, it's a fun time, as it is not only about the DCAU, but all about geek culture. Check out their sister-site for even more cool stuff. They are coming up on their 75th episode and are promoting as much as possible, as they only will have 100 episodes total.


Do you have an e-mail I can send to? I'd like to ask you something. ― Thailog 20:31, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Try ederchil AT, my second address. Don't like putting my main one online. -- Tupka217 20:35, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
You're got mail. ― Thailog 21:04, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Swamp Thing

I cited my sources and gave references, so may I ask why the swamp thing cameo keeps getting deleted from the trivia section?

Your sources were Swampthingroots and Wikipedia. Both just say "it's him". But neither of them offers a source. Did Bruce Timm or Dwayne McDuffie or whoever say somewhere like "We modeled that one unimportant alien after Swamp Thing"? If so, then it can be in the article. If not, it's needless fanon. We try to keep that to a minimum here. -- Tupka217 18:30, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Here's another source:
I will honor your wishes however not reinstate the article piece until I get a solid confirmation.-- 20:20, March 4, 2010 (UTC)
Once again, that's not a source. It's "someone with an internet connection thinks so" (all due respect). You're gonna need a creator statement. -- Tupka217 20:30, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have my dvd's in front of me, but my research claims they point it out in the Region 1 dvd commentary.

What episode? Comfort and Joy doesn't have commentary. -- Tupka217 00:12, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

It turns out, it was an interview where they stated he had a cameo in JLU's Initiation, not a commentary. Sorry, my mistake, but Comfort and Joy does have a commentary (sort of), a guy named Trevor Balena released the DC Animation Commentaries Podcast, which he includes commentaries with cited sources and interviews about the epiode. Trevor recalled Bruce Timm telling how he got Paul Dini to write it since he is "Mr. Christmas" and how Carl Lumbly's lullabye was an actual native folksong. I'm not sure, but I think he has links on to his sources on the DC Animation Commentaries website.

Ah yes, Initiation. There's indeed one screen that features a lot of mysterious Leaguers from behind - shapes that could be Swamp Thing, Zauriel, Doctor Occult and others. Do you have a link to that interview?
I've listened to the podcast, it also just mentions "Hey it's Swamp Thing". Maybe there's more in Modern Masters, I'll check that. -- Tupka217 08:03, March 24, 2010 (UTC)


The entry for Talon I've submitted does come from Wikipedia, true, but it's much better than the current one. And just for information: the Wiki entry has been composed and corrected by myself.

It does not comply with our Manual of Style, and it's terribly wordy. Especially the powers & abilities section. -- Tupka217 10:22, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
Hey I went ahead and wrote the Talon article, I didn't have time to do all the sources but I updated all of her appearances as well and put them in order. The flow of the article should be fairly indicative of where each episode ends and what-not. I'm going to try to put in the infoboxes and all that jazz before work. Oh, and the Justice League article is un-editable currently, presumably thanks to that FirebenderFan guy who keeps clogging up articles with nothingness. Having said that his newest additions need some serious cleaning/reverting. --Coreysturg 01:08, August 11, 2010 (UTC)

BB comics

Hey buddy, long time no chat, thanks for helping me with the ratboy page, Good news is that i got all the Batman Beyond comics so i can fill in the gaps that the show it self did not present to the veiwers. Shadowhawk27 23:04, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have them all too. And though most of them are written by the late Hilary J. Bader, they're non-canon. You can put them on Background Information though. As long as you write down something more informative than the comic's solicitation. -- Tupka217 23:08, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well i could use your help with Carter Wilson aka Terminal, he too made a return in the comic TERMINAL VELOCITY where Carter has been cured of his evil persona, but his former gang of Jokerz will stop at nothing to turn him back to his criminal self. Shadowhawk27 23:14, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

I also forgot to mention that we need to Flush out the rest of the charictors that were shown in the Batman Beyond Comics, Like the Royal Flush gang, Shriek, Blight, Stalker, the Kobra organization, Ma Mayhem and her sons, Spellbinder, The JLU, Inque, Curaré, Willie Watt, Dr. Cuvier and Etrigan. Shadowhawk27 20:21, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well people have the right to know, what really happened to these charictors Shadowhawk27 21:12, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

If you have these comics, how come you're not filling them out? Why are you just waiting for someone else to do it for you? Shadowhawk27 22:41, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Usually because I forget. And when someone else does it, I clean it up. No one has an obligation to edit all the stuff they know/have. -- Tupka217 06:17, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Fanon beta

I would like to ask a favor, As a writer of a current Batman Beyond story (Featuring the Dee-Dee Twins, Melanie Walker and my own creation, the son of Two-Face and so forth) on, I would need your help if that's possible. you seem to have the knowlage of the Batman saga that i would need for my story. Shadowhawk27 18:29, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm flattered. Go ahead and ask me anything. And if I don't know the answer, I'm sure someone else will. I've done some beta-ing fanfiction before, but that was a couple of years ago. -- Tupka217 21:44, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure you can re-fresh your beta skills, Since my Work is based on the Elseworlds series if you are familier with it, According to its tagline: "In Elseworlds, heroes and Villains are taken from their usual settings and put into strange times and places — some that have existed, and others that can't, couldn't or shouldn't exist. The result is stories that make characters who are as familiar as yesterday seem as fresh as tomorrow." Unlike its Marvel Comics counterpart What If...?, which bases its stories on a single point of divergence from the regular continuity, most Elseworlds stories instead take place in entirely self-contained continuities whose only connection to the canon DC continuity are the presence of familiar DC characters. And here's my Two-Face along with the Dee-Dee Twins, Shadowhawk27 22:56, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's it, you got nothing else to say after i presented that pic of mine? O_o Shadowhawk27 00:38, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

If you have a story somewhere... I'm just curious how Dent junior got his scars. -- Tupka217 06:00, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Oh i do, ya see at his old job at Wayne/Powers Enterprises, he was a victim of a prank gone bad. There Co-Workers took great delight in finding the slightest joke referring to their timid co-worker or his dual character of his father. He was such an easy victim their favourite to harass. The pranks, the jokes, the sight gags, the awful puns, they had hundreds and they were merciless in delivering them. But one prank was considered the worst of them all, two of his co-workers give Jeffery a marijuana joint laced with poison, which he smokes in the science lab where he is working on a chemistry project. The joint makes him so sick he runs to the men's room to vomit. While he is gone, one of them rigs his experiment to explode in Jeffery's face by opening a gas valve.

Upon Jeffery's return, the set-up works, causing Jeffery to panic, and a great fire to erupts in the lab after he knocks over a Bunsen burner. In the struggle, Jeffery accidentally bumps into a shelf where a precariously placed jug of acid sits, causing the jug to fall and break, which splashes acid on Jeffery's face, leaving him horribly disfigured.

The acid severely mutilated the impacted side of his face, but the psychological damage was even worse. The explosion attracts everyone's attention, but they arrive only to see Jeffery burned alive and wheeled away by paramedics. The other employees, who stand by the door in shock and many of them now start to show signs of remorse. Shadowhawk27 14:34, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. How old is he during all of this? And are the Deeds part of the story or just filler (I noticed a drawing with Melanie/Ten too)? They seem a bit older than the 16 they were in RotJ (which was ~2040). Harvey and Grace's age are never really established, but probably 30-35ish. When did they get married/a kid? I know it's non-canon, but the comics implied that the relation between them was over. -- Tupka217 17:56, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I stated before, my Work is based on the Elseworlds series. Oh and FYI some say that my Two-Face's good side, his beautiful part of face looks like Alan Wilder (Recoil, ex-Depeche Mode). Shadowhawk27 02:13, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

You've got a story somewhere? -- Tupka217 18:35, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah right here, Shadowhawk27 20:55, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think I'll read that during the following days. Don't have much time, but I should be able to squeeze this in. -- Tupka217 20:58, April 19, 2010 (UTC)

I heard rumors while back that Huntress was going to be in Batman Beyond. Bruce Timm stated it was going to be Helena Wayne, Daughter of Catwoman and Terry's half sister back in 1999 as she would make a good alternative to having a Batgirl Beyond but i guess it never got around. :(

Bruce Timm: "The only established DC hero that will probably show up in Batman Beyond is the Huntress, just because we think she's an interesting character and we kind of want to do another female crime-fighter along the lines of Batgirl, but we didn't want to just do 'Batgirl Beyond.' We thought the Huntress would be a natural. We're actually working on a story for that right now, so the Huntress will probably be on Batman Beyond. For a while there, we were toying with the idea of bringing in a Batgirl-type of character [onto Batman Beyond]. We were getting a lot of pressure from lots of different areas, saying, ‘You have to do a new Batgirl.' We were getting pressure from different corners to do that, and we're not really against the idea, [but] we just don't want to have a recurring Batgirl character as much as the old Batman show had. We don't want to have someone who teams up with him every episode. But we were talking about doing an updated version of the Huntress, so that may happen."

That's it, you got nothing else to say after i presented that info reguarding Huntress? O_o Shadowhawk27 11:56, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I already knew that :). -- Tupka217 16:56, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I c, I just want to know why Huntress never showed up in Batman Beyond cause it would have been cool that Terry did meet his half sister. Shadowhawk27 20:23, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I personally didn't miss her. As for why she wasn't used, you'd have to ask Bruce Timm. -- Tupka217 20:37, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Even if i did ask him, Batman Beyond is way over so he wouldn't be concern about it. Also another thing about that episode Epilogue, I think there's still some more loose ends, like Matt's reaction that finding out Bruce Wayne is his ture father. And where's Terry's Mom and Max? Further more, I feel compelled to comment on the supposed "unused movie idea for a direct to video Batman Beyond movie" where Selina Kyle aka Catwoman moved to South America and created a bunch of Bruce Wayne clones and systematically murdered their parents when they reached the proper age. One of them was Terry.

First off, When she started her life as a costumed criminal, she had one unbreakable rule like Batman: SHE DOES NOT TAKE A PERSON'S LIFE!!! It goes againest her charictor, she's not the type of person that would make the wayne clones and kill their parents when they came of age.... I'm glad they went with the Cadmus arc instead. Shadowhawk27 20:44, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

That's it, you got nothing else to say after i presented that info on that un-used idea for a batman beyond movie and that JLU episode Epilogue? O_o Shadowhawk27 03:24, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Already knew that too... when you find something on this wiki, chances I already read it are huge. Besides, this is my talk page, not a forum.
About the fanfic: I didn't really have time to read more than a few paragraphs last week (my dad was in the hospital so I wasn't really keen on doing much) but I'll have plenty of free time this week. -- Tupka217 14:11, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that your old man is not well :( i hope he gets better. Also what do you think so far of my story? Shadowhawk27 20:27, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

He's recovered mostly. Subdural hematoma.
I've read the first chapter of Two-Face II, and most of my remarks are grammar. Sent an email your way. -- Tupka217 21:19, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I c, well it would have been alot better if you had an account with or just sign in Anonymous Shadowhawk27 21:28, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

I'll do that for the rest of the story, then... -- Tupka217 21:34, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

That Two-Face episode in B:TAS is easily one of the finest depictions of the character. It stayed true to his spirit even while the origin was notably altered* in both the physical and psychological causes for Harvey's transformation but I knew that "bully" theory was just a cover story.

The psychological explanation for Harvey's dark side--dubbed "Big Bad Harv," and after all these years, I still don't know if I find that silly or not--is it the result from years of Harvey's suppressed rage, stemming from his guilt at attacking a bully?

As far as psychological motivations go, it's rather specious. I mean, really, one moment like that doesn't create Two-Face. But it was written for kids who were likely familiar with the pain of bullies, and hey, ongoing child abuse isn't exactly the stuff of afternoon cartoons.

But then we have the comics based on B:TAS, which weren't afraid to introduce darker themes. As such, leave it to the great Ty Templeton to delve past the "bully" theory, and introduce a twist on the regular DCU origin in that comic book Batman Gotham Adventures #2: Lucky Day Shadowhawk27 21:57, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Haven't seen any reviews from you for my Two-Face story :( Shadowhawk27 03:00, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Halfway through the first story. -- Tupka217 07:24, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

How far are you in my Two-Face story? what Chapters are you on? Shadowhawk27 01:29, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

7 (not really halfway, I know). Other fics I read were stories, whilst this one reads more like a comic book. I imagine it as a comic book as I read it, which takes a bit longer to read.
Quick notes: The language seems to go downhill every chapter. A diesis is a typographical mark, not a literary one. And how Ivy could get a son? Or is he a plant creature and I'm not far enough in the story yet? -- Tupka217 12:14, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

You have to read this in order to find out more on Ivy's adopted son. Shadowhawk27 01:18, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

if it's not a forum, then what is it then? cause i was just asking people if they agree with what i just stated on that jlu episode before you took it down. Shadowhawk27 20:42, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

The talk page is for discussing parts of the page or the episode, not your opinion. If you want people's reactions on your opinion of something, you should try a message board like ToonZone or ComicVine or ComicBookResources or whatever. -- Tupka217 20:55, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Just how far are you on my story cause i haven't seen any review from you? O_o Shadowhawk27 14:25, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Chapter 15, sorry about the lack of progress. -- Tupka217 14:27, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Image of the JLU

They were official pics I think, in fact I've seen the one of superman used on your wiki, and the batman one was used on THE WORLD'S FINEST website (that's a name or something), so it's original, not some fan art, I think... and the one of Barda was used once I think...

So they were original and the thing wouldn't let me choose a license, when I pressed it nothing popped up, I'm sure I'm wrong though...

I know we have a character model on Superman and Batman. As far as I'm concerned, it can be replaced with something similar if available.
The character models are from World's Finest Online (that's the name), but they don't state where they got them from (official site, I guess, but it's offline for years). Of course they're official (I'm not accusing them of making this up or anything) but it's unclear where's they're from, so screenshots take precedence over character models. This is not an official policy, but (my own, admittedly) extrapolation of it, so feel free to object.
As for the license, you can fill in a {{Filebox}}, and write "Promotional" under the "license" field, and include the WFO url under "origin". But the Terry character model was copied from WFO without changing the filename, so that will be deleted no matter what. Images need to have a good, clear name.
Hope it clears up anything. -- Tupka217 17:33, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Image debate.

I have an Idea: Delete it right now. I would upload a screenshot, but there are two problems: I dont have the DVD, and I dont know how to get the Image. I've looked for one, too. just delete the Image while I go take another look. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mekkai (talkcontribs).

Already deleted it. They article doesn't really need another pic; it already has Hades's face and his "true form".
And as for making a screenshot; in Windows Media Player, turn overlays off, press Print Screen, and paste in Paint. That's the simplest way. -- Tupka217 19:42, April 28, 2010 (UTC)


Why did you delete the articles of Kid Amazo and Prankster for?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ImNedBigby (talkcontribs).

I made myself clear on both the deletion summary and your talk page. -- Tupka217 15:52, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Commenting Out Text

Lol... Actually... i put that there just as a "note to self" of sorts. I was trying to remember the wiki-code for creating commented-text, and when I remembered, decided to try it out there. Something worth asking you though... Do you know how to do "justified" paragraph aligninment in wiki-format? I know it's possible, but I can't quite remember how it was supposed to be done.

--MercWithMouthTalkPage 00:21, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Nice artwork. I'm ashamed to admit I haven't picked up any Deadpool titles recently (my local store stopped carrying them) so I still have to start Deadpool Corps.
As for the Justified alignment: I know it's possible, but it's not really necessary on this wiki. --Tupka217 07:24, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
    • If you know how to do the wiki-markup for Justifying-text, please let me know. Though I don't foresee needing to use it on the DCAUwiki, there have been a few times when I wanted to use it on the wiki.

Also, if you haven't had a chance to read any DeadPool comics lately, then maybe you might consider watching HULK VS WOLVERINE where DeadPool plays a prominent supporting role.

Let me know your thoughts.

--MercWithMouthTalkPage 11:23, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Seen it multiple times. I like Nolan North's take on the character, but maybe they could have poked at the fourth wall a bit more often. "Strike a pose!" was the only one. Like him yelling "Flashback!" or something. -- Tupka217 14:43, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

The Parasite

Let's resume our lively discussion, shall we?

--MercWithMouthTalkPage 02:06, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thankless Life of the WikiEditor

"My appreciation of virtually anything is seriously hampered by spending too much time on TV Tropes anyway. --Tupka217 14:21, May 19, 2010 (UTC) "

Then I guess we'll just have to change that. ;) What's a good instant-messenger screenname to contact you at? --MercWithMouthTalkPage 15:32, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

None. -- Tupka217 15:37, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Alright... well... in that case... start idling/lurking in the WeChall Treehouse. Directions are here. While it's been pretty quiet these past few weeks, soon, it'll become pretty energetic again and I think you'll find yourself in good company. --MercWithMouthTalkPage 16:09, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not interested. I don't really have the time for it with finals coming up. -- Tupka217 16:39, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Good luck. --MercWithMouthTalkPage 17:28, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Is It Any Wonder Why You Fall Asleep In Class, McGuiness?

Hey Tupka. You know, it might not be a bad idea if you refrained from work on the "Rebirth" article for a few minutes. I'm in the middle of a series of edits that I've been contemplating.

Among my intended changes:

  • screenshots of the original Batman in the future-Batsuit
  • general re-writes for the article body (even the edits I've already performed are not final as relate to their corresponding parts of the article)
  • creation of the 'electric knuckle duster' and adding it to the equipment categories

If you have any thoughts, please share them in the WeChall treehouse (you have one-click access to it.)

  1. I'm a horrible recent changes hound.
  2. One will suffice.
  3. Go ahead.
  4. They don't have a name, "electric knuckle dusters" is just a description.
  5. As your edits concern the DCAU wiki, I see little need in discussing them on any other website. -- Tupka217 12:57, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
Lol. The WeChall treehouse permits real-time chat. That's why I suggested it. Give me your thoughts on my edits when I wrap up some of them later. How did your exams go?

--MercWithMouthTalkPage 13:08, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm still studying. They're in week 25, but I need to ace them. I'm just pressing F5 now and then to see if there's something new. -- Tupka217 13:28, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


Where can I find .png images? JancePaquibo 07:21, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Nowhere, as far as I know. You'd have to make a screenshot and then save them as .png yourself. -- Tupka217 07:27, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Check it out

Lookie Here what I found. (image) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mekkai (talkcontribs).

It's got a bad filename, you didn't fill out the filebox correctly, you placed it under a section where it does not belong ("Overthrown"), made it 400PX and all that just to say "Hades with his helmet on". I still say such an image is not necessary; if there is another, it'd have to be one from "The Balance". -- Tupka217 18:34, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Also, what did you mean by a screencap? im not familiar with that term.--That Turtle guy 18:44, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

A screen capture. Simplest way to do it (for Windows): open the DVD in Windows Media Player (or comparable), make sure overlays are turned off, press Print Screen (usually next to F12), open Paint (or comparable), paste, trim the edges, maybe size it down a bit, and Save As... a .png or .jpg. -- Tupka217 18:50, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

I wish. My computer is an Apple iMac. it doesnt have any of those programs.

In that case, Command Shift 3 to grab the screen. I don't know what media player you use, so you might want to google how to turn off overlays. -- Tupka217 19:07, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Mekkai here. I took your advice and used command shift 3 and cropped it so it shows only Hades.


Earlier, you said something that didnt make any sense to me. You said that FMIs were Unessecary, not Prohibited could you please enlighten me about that? Also, about Hades's Helmet, he wears it when he first appears, so that's the most famous version of him. If you ask around, you'll find plenty of people who arent happy about him only wearing it for six seconds. And, although it has nothing to do with this, there is one other inconstistence on that character.--That Turtle guy 21:10, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

No, they're not "prohibited", just "not preferred". They're discussed on a case-to-case basis.
To be nitpicky, he wears the helmet for twenty-two seconds.
First appearance is not most famous appearance - technically, Hades' first appearance is as a flame.
An image of him wearing the helmet does not explain the continuity error of its disappearance.
-- Tupka217 21:33, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
Thank You.
Ive only seen the actual episode once, and I was very young at the time. so I cant be fully accurate.
I meant physically
The image isnt meant to explain the error.
Also, about the Inconsistence regarding his form, do i at least get points for pointing out an error?
If you want to know why im fascinated with the helmet, it's because i'm an all-or-none kind of guy.--That Turtle guy 21:45, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
You get bonus points, because I hadn't thought of that one yet. I've removed it from Hades, but you can add it to "The Balance" if you like. -- Tupka217 22:05, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

By "true skin", I meant the gray on his arms. BTW, My birthday's today.


Hi, how are you? =)ImNedBigby 18:45, June 1, 2010 (UTC)ImNedBigby

Dead Reckoning

I thought since Wonder Woman is an Amazon, that means she isn't human. On her page on this site it says Species: Amazon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk)

I don't know whether there's a difference between Amazon DNA and human DNA, and if yes, what the difference is. Or Kryptonian DNA, for that matter. I guess you could add it. The whole concept of "rewriting someone's DNA" is BS anyway. -- Tupka217 05:10, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


Why did you take the "Tyger, Tyger" reference out? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Petermac2 (talkcontribs).

The history of splicing is described at length in its own article. It's a lot more than just "Tyger, Tyger"; adding all of that would be overkill. Just the message of the first appearance would do fine.
Also, "officially", you are blocked until July 28, 2010 for vandalism. Note: Block-evasion by creating a second account is enough reason to block you again, though i'll let it slide this time. -- Tupka217 19:42, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well I thought the block was lifted because I could edit stuff as an unregistered user/just use my I.P. address. You have to admit my "vandalism" was pretty funny. Also, I was the one who asked you about Grodd's "re-writing human DNA device" from "Dead Reckoning." That DCAUBatman guy kept deleting stuff that both you and I put in there about the device being able to re-write Superman's DNA. His argument that Superman's DNA is similar to human DNA is explained in the comics is what you guys call "conjecture" on this site.-Petermac2

You and I do not have the same definition of "funny". Inserting false information, especially of such... graphic nature, is vandalism any way you slice it.
As for the DNA thing... since magic was involved, anything goes. -- Tupka217 20:33, July 22, 2010 (UTC)


So we share some similiar interests. I liek DC and Marvel both. You got the DC Encyclopedia? Im getting it for christmas.


So we share some similiar interests. I liek DC and Marvel both. You got the DC Encyclopedia? Im getting it for christmas.FirebenderFan 02:29, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Tupka

Hey Tupka. Want to chat?FirebenderFan 20:35, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

No. -- Tupka217 20:48, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure?

i've watched Future Shock time and again, and I don't see how you can say that Wonder Woman is on active duty with the Justice League just because she's mentioned as a hero. As for Static, I can agree that at one point he does join, but I'm pretty sure that in this episode he's not in the JLU. When Batman mentions the Justice League, he says "and the league is halfway around the world" not "and the rest of the league is halfway around the world." So the argument that Wonder Woman would most likely be in the League because she's mentioned with other League members isn't a very strong argument in the context of 'this' episode. So is there some kind of creator statement I'm missing or is this just an assumption?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coreysturg (talkcontribs).

I wanted to check first, and now that I did, I'd have to agree with you. I just forgot to revert my reverts. I don't think there's a creator statement. -- Tupka217 05:57, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks mate, I'll go ahead and nix 'em... btw much appreciation for your damn hard work on the site... Keep up the good work. --Coreysturg 07:07, August 10, 2010 (UTC)


Question: Do the quotes always have to start with the first sentence the first speaker said as opposed to just starting where the point the quote is trying to make starts? For example, at the top of the Terry McGinnis's Batsuit page, the quote reads "Ah, the new boy. Ears are too long and I miss the cape. But not too shabby. Not too shabby at all." Can't we just start from "Ears are too long"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DCAUBatman (talkcontribs).

I have no objection to that. -- Tupka217 06:56, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

So it's okay if I take off the beginning of quotes like that so they get more to the point? --DCAUBatman 17:01, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

If they start at a new sentence, yes. If you only quote part of the sentence, be sure to include "...". -- Tupka217 21:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Model Sheets

Thought you would like to know this site [1]has full color model sheets for most all the DCAU shows and characters. Such as the Batman Beyond Armor, Savage Time Batman, and Justice Lord Batman. I think they would be great resources to use on the Batsuit page to match the other reference shots.

Those aren't character models. They're fan art made to resemble character models. See our the policy on fan art.
"Discussed on a case by case basis" is a friendly-worded policy. In my opinion, there is no need to use to fan art, period.
A screenshot should suffice. -- Tupka217 19:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

-- Tupka217 19:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Reason for uploading photo

I only uploaded that photo of Cobra Leader so that people can see what he looks like from Static Shock. Also I needed to find a site to post it on so that other sites can get a copy of it for their sources. Unless you intend to improve the article, don't delete it please.--Mark Shadow 15:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

It will be deleted in one week, if you do not add a {{filebox}} to the file, or if there is no use for the file. It is currently unused, because your page of Cobra Leader was far below our standard requirements. If you make a page, at least put some effort in it. If not, it (and the images it uses) get deleted.
There were some other problems with "Cobra Leader": it's spelled "Kobra", not "Cobra", and there have been multiple "Kobra Leaders" in Batman Beyond, most of them unnamed. -- Tupka217 16:33, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


In responce to your comment, I'd like to piont out that the Deceased catagory only stands for those who have been killed prior to the Beyond era. Anyone killed/murdered in that era can still be considered. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Finister2 (talkcontribs).

Our perspective is not "look back from the Beyond-era", as I pointed out. In the timeline of the DCAU, that's somewhere in the middle. Why didn't you pick the Legion of Super-Heroes-era? Your choice is purely subjective and not in line with the existing policy. -- Tupka217 15:57, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Just dropping a line

I know from your bio that you're not too fond of Marvel apart from Deadpool, but what do you think of the trailer of Marvel vs Capcom 3? He breaks the fourth wall by using his health bar as a weapon!


Yeah sorry about that, I read it on Wikipedia then came over here a bit too eagerly. I rewatched the episode it was supposedly referenced in, except it wasn't. I was just going to correct my mistake when you beat me to the punch, so thanks.


As far as I know, in Mainstream Comics, the Justice League never had a satellite and a base down on Earth at the same time until a little while back. Seeing as that was after season three of Justice League Unlimited, I thought that that would be a good addition to the "Mainstream Comics" section of DCAU Influences on Mainstream Comics. Just wanted to double-check that the League hadn't had both before adding it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DCAUBatman (talkcontribs).

I'm not sure, I'm not big on the recent history of the JLA (the pre-Rise and Fall-era). There have been bases on Earth before, but that was in the JLI-era. They were "embassies", not Watch or Metro towers.
The new satellite definitely borrowed some design elements from Watchtower II, that can be added. -- Tupka217 20:42, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

True, but I was leaning more towards the idea of having a satellite and a base on Earth at the same time.--DCAUBatman 00:47, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

What's The Big Idea?

Why'd you go and remove my changes to those pages? There was nothing wrong with them! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eddy1215 (talkcontribs).

They were out-of-universe. See our manual of style. -- Tupka217 06:53, September 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well, at least you allowed the modification I made to Hawkgirl's comforting of Grundy.

Where is Kangor really from?

Hello. I just want to ask a question. Why did you edit out the part about Kangor being jamaican? He talked with an accent, so he must be jamaican. If not, then what is he? Write me back. Chaosaurus199 12:21, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Where is he said to be Jamaican? Just the accent doesn't cut it. -- Tupka217 12:27, October 17, 2010 (UTC)


Did you change my Joker Edit--Avatar symbiote 23:14, October 22, 2010 (UTC)Avatar symbiote

Yes. --Tupka217 18:20, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Noticed a continuity issue, never edited or worked with wikia before

Okay so, I've been a big DC as well as DCAU fan for a while, I love watching any of the series within it and then refer to this site to confirm speculated trivia and continuity errors I come across. So onto the point, as I've frequented the site, I've seen your name come up quite prominently and feel you're the one I should point this out to.

I was watching Superman TAS episode New Kids In Town, which I've heard bits and pieces about it before. But I watched it and happened to notice near the end where the barn is blown up, like explosively, bits everywhere, nothing but a building frame left. Then before the Legionnaires leave Saturn Girl wipes young Clark Kent's mind as well as anyone else of their visit and all knowledge included. With that said, referring over to the second episode in the series The Last Son Of Krypton: part 2 when Clark is still a teenager is when he starts to discover he has these abilities. Ma and Pa Kent take him out to the barn and show him his Rocket complete with Krypton technology to inform Superman of his past.

Technically, since young Clark in New Kids In Town doesn't know about his powers yet and the only thing that housed the ability to just exploded in a fire. Wouldn't the Legionnaires have doomed themselves? Or wouldn't this at least be considered an inconsistency or continuity error to be marked down on the episode page for New Kids in Town?

Hope to hear your response. ~Az

Never really thought of that. I'll look into it; don't have the DVDs with me at the moment. -- Tupka217 09:29, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

I thought you might be interested. I appreciate it, I didn't want to just register and blindly edit that in and need someone to come behind me to play cleanup in case I was missing something. ~Az

One of Wikipedia's main creeds is Be Bold. I guess the same counts here. You don't have to register to add it. -- Tupka217 09:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

Sin Tzu Characters

I noticed recently that the character Sin Tzu from the DCAU-based video game is a canon article on the site. Does this make Jeremiah Arkham, Mackenzie Bock, Black Mask, and the Luck Hand Triad (All characters and groups from Mainstream DC Comics) canon in DCAU? They were referenced in the game's storyline.

Thanks,--Duel44 23:03, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

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